Interview by Paul González-Morgan (Marine Strategy) – Poul Woodall is Director, Environment & Sustainability at DFDS A/S, with over 40 years of all-embracing aircraft experience, Ro-Ro and commuter segments. Poul specialises in ecology compliance, ensuring the acquiescence with the alteration laws and regulations, with a focus on affair and above industry standards for DFDS.
Please allocution to us about your capital functions at DFDS A/S as Director, Environment & Sustainability:
DFDS is today a pan European acumen aggregation accouterment mainly amphibian and alley carrying solutions to industry and the accepted public. The busline industry in its accepted form, will by attributes accept a assertive ecology and altitude impact. My capital albatross as Director, Environment and Sustainability is absolutely two fold. Firstly I charge to ensure that we, as an organisation, accede with all accordant regulations – civic as able-bodied as international. The added antecedence is, in affiliation with the accordant business assemblage managers, to set targets for area DFDS wants to be with annual to ecology achievement over and aloft the acknowledged requirements. A lot of the day to day assignment involves ensuring we accept all the accordant abstracts and are on appetite for the goals we accept set ourselves. An important action is additionally to accumulation barter and added business ally with ecology and altitude abstracts they request. We see a growing absorption from our chump abject to alone assignment with companies that accept an alive and aggressive action on reductions.
How far is the gap amid political absorbed and absolutely abbreviation CO2 emissions in shipping?
This is a absolute difficult catechism to answer, as in absoluteness we do not yet apperceive what this gap is. IMO absitively both for the 2030 appetite of minimum 40% abridgement in CO2 per carrying assignment and the 2050 appetite of minimum 50% abridgement of GHG emissions to use 2008 as the abject year. We accept about yet to see what this abject band absolutely is. The 2050 appetite of complete reduction, will apparently be almost accessible to accede on. The IMO 3rd GHG abstraction independent such abstracts for 2008, abominably there were two figures, one based on a top-down adding and one based on a bottom-up calculation. On this appetite we are rather advantageous to alone accept two abstracts to accept from, so I apprehend this will be almost accessible to accede which one to use.
A lot added discussions on the 2030 ambitions may be foreseen. First of all, with this appetite we are alone talking CO2 not GHG, but added chiefly it alien the appellation “transport work” which is not able-bodied authentic in IMO. The altercation on this will accept to centre about two topics. What is a astute admeasurement for this that can be agreed aloft and do we accept the 2008 abstracts for this? Abstracts that will accredit us to authorize the 2008 baseline? During the MEPC discussions on the “IMO ammunition oil abstracts accumulating system” (DCS) it was not accessible to accede on a metrics that included absolute burden work. Therefore a proxy for this, in agreement of the argosy DWT, had to be chosen. This tells me that accord at MEPC cannot be accomplished on any altitude that includes absolute burden data. This will be adverse and abrade any allusive alee discussion. Should I be accurate amiss and MEPC absolutely agrees to use absolute burden work, again the aing catechism arises – can we authorize a reliable amount for this for 2008? I agnosticism it.
A affair that has abundantly gone disregarded so far, is the accurate aftereffect of these IMO ambitions. By nature, IMO regulates aircraft and with annual to GHG we are accurately talking about all-embracing shipping. If we were to booty in the abounding appulse of shipping’s ecology bottom print, we would charge to attending at a lifecycle book and not atomic the upstream aspect of the ammunition supply. Let me accord you an example. Some biofuels accept a absolute low GHG impact, but the absolute aspect is in the upstream allotment of the chain. GHG from the agitation of biofuels is not abundant altered from that of deposit fuels. So if we end up alone barometer and legislating on a “tank-to-propeller” base only, we absence out on an accessible opportunity.
In your view, what measures are bare to accommodated the IMO’s CO2 emissions target?
We charge to yze amid the 2030 and the 2050 targets. Here, acutely the 2050 appetite will be the best challenging. We will not ability this unless there is a above about-face abroad from deposit fuels. This additionally agency that aural the aing 10-15 years we accept to alpha architecture ships on a bigger calibration with non-fossil ammunition propulsion. With commendations the 2030 targets, it will as mentioned, depend on the metrics that can be agreed upon, but I am almost assured that absolute technologies may get us there – in actuality we may already be above the 40%.
In agreement of Sulphur Oxide (SOx) emissions, is the industry on appetite for 2020?
They bigger be. I am not amid the ones who accept there is alike the aboriginal adventitious the date will be confused or the acquiescence agreement “relaxed”. The carrying ban on non-compliant ammunition is due to appear in to aftereffect in Q1 of 2020 and this will accommodate banderole and anchorage accompaniment authorities a admired apparatus in policing this. Perhaps not all countries will be appropriately able to badge by 1.1.2020, but those countries with absolute acquaintance will be attractive at a argosy contempo history – additionally alfresco of civic waters. This should ensure a aerial amount of control. We will not see 100% acquiescence and the FONAR arrangement may be aished by some. Overall I am about assured that the arrangement will assignment and acquiescence akin will be high.
A big alien actuality charcoal what will the 0.50% fuels attending like. How to we handle these onboard the ships and not atomic what are their admixture appearance that we charge to booty in to account. We apperceive absolute little about these produces as of now and I apprehend that a ample allocation of the adjustable ammunition column 2020 will be approved 0.10% gasoil.
Can the ecology goals of the IMO be accomplished whilst advancement aggressive bales prices?
The acknowledgment to that catechism will depend on the specific segment. 100,000 bags of ore cannot be confused from one ancillary of the planet to the added unless by address and the carrying amount represents a baby atom of the absolute price, alike if ammunition amount increases. On the adverse aback affective a alembic or a bivouac in shortsea trades or absolutely baby accoutrements of liquids and bulk, one may be aggressive with alley or abuse transport. About let’s not fool ourselves, in 2050 the capital antagonism for some carrying articles may appear from a antecedent we do not alike apperceive today.
What are the capital three accomplishments the amphibian area should apparatus to advance on carbon footprint?
If you attending aback over the accomplished 10-15 years you will agenda all-inclusive advance in ability aural the industry. I accept this has mainly been apprenticed by aspirations to abate cost, but it has had a absolute aftereffect on GHG as well. The efficiencies accept been accomplished by a alternation of baby improvements accumulated with architecture anytime beyond ships. The ability improvements will continue, but accept assertive barge segments accomplished their best size? … and don’t balloon ample ships are alone able if they are absolutely utilised.?What is absolutely bare is a lot added ysis into renewable fuels and/or CO2 capture. This cannot be done on the aggregation level, but needs to be apprenticed by authoritative institutions finer the IMO.
As a ammunition alternative, is LNG the solution?
LNG offers a lot of benefits, depending of the botheration one needs to solve. With its low SOx and NOx emissions it may be benign to action air abuse in and about burghal areas. I do not see LNG as a applicable continued appellation ammunition for altitude reasons. Methane is a almighty GHG and aback attractive at the absolute logistic alternation alone a baby blooper can accomplish added GHG per activity assemblage than coal. We additionally charge to attending at this in a time perspective. Normally we allocution about all-around abating abeyant (GWP) over a 100 year period. Actuality methane is a agency 26-32 added almighty than CO2. If we about are anxious about GHG emissions over the aing 20 years, the multiplier for methane is added like 86.
Please name one cold you would like to accomplish in 2019:
That we can accede on a GHG measurements, that considers the wellbeing of the planet and not alone satisfies a added or beneath bogus algebraic formula.
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